Hold Up, And Another Thing!!!!
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Hold Up, And Another Thing!!!!
NO LIMIT VS CASH MONEY And AI Is Here
We unpack brand misreads around DEI, then shift into AI’s new place in music as an AI artist hits the Billboard charts. The second half breaks down No Limit vs Cash Money, why showmanship beat scarcity, and who could credibly face Jay-Z in a Versus.
• Target’s inclusivity optics and how brands underestimate cultural risk
• AI as tool vs replacement in music creation
• Prompting as a communication skill and why it matters
• The ethics and reality of relationships with AI
• Service apps, convenience trade-offs, and hidden costs
• No Limit vs Cash Money: attendance, presence, and MVPs
• Snoop’s loyalty, Master P’s protection, and legacy moments
• Mannie Fresh vs KLC and production identity
• Who can match Jay-Z: Wayne, Nas, Drake, Kanye
• Why Jay vs Nas makes the most musical sense
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SPEAKER_06:So joke. What's going on?
SPEAKER_03:D-E-I. I like it. We don't have no other Caucasian so normal.
SPEAKER_06:You don't think ICE is gonna start banging at my door a little bit?
SPEAKER_03:Nah, we don't gotta have sphocs. We got Caucasian. So I think we good. Okay, that's number one. Catch what tell can't be showing. Yeah. But yeah, no. So be yeah, dude. I'm talking having issues with him, kind of like still target. How did they do that? Target underestimated how much not only certain poop spoon and target. Dude, that's what I'm saying. How did Target underestimate what they were? We're Target, man. You are known for your your what's the word I'm gonna fall? I'm gonna say it's conclusively, thank you. And like you desire to allow everybody in no matter what, and you celebrate everybody's, you know, differences of their cultures, and you all constantly understand like for every different thing, you know. Did you all really not get about uh issues when we you know it's not just hard, it's just hard. It's not just hard, man. They don't uh it's like they look at it and they think uh let me just shut up, have whatever money you're asking me to, and I'll do whatever is like collaborating. That thing that I said about in 2020, that that was the that was the wind boom exactly when we brought the web, we brought back a whole lot of 500 people. Maybe it's like we're replacing place. Oh god, so yeah, turbulent it means hey, okay, boom, because I have something else that I've just read about today that I want to add on to it, but I need to look at some stuff online, but go ahead, yeah. So turn it as five on AI artists, uh and I don't think quite okay now. What was it, do you happen to know the name of this artist by okay? I do an ask. I for sure and that's I would say it you produce music, so you don't have a better understanding of either this thing me or the perspective. But how'd you say the method was temporary? Because I wouldn't expect temporary and you don't want to do it. Uh it was just me coming from a bunch of humans that produce so many music for so many for who we want to do. So it doesn't shock me at all that it's him that doesn't. Hugh has always been the person who wants to, you know what I'm saying? Like him and I would say the neptoons, but I don't feel like even with them, they're not as far out there like he is with wanting to, you know what I'm saying, to like hey, what's that new thing? Yeah, exactly. Who wants to be?
SPEAKER_06:He wants to like do it first, and he also like he's constantly wanting to experiment with these new ideas and new sounds.
SPEAKER_03:But you know, if you go back and you listen to his music back in the day when when he was fucking doing children like Justin Timberlake and uh like he was doing his own albums in Melly Fatado and all that stuff, but his sound and I think it was there was that 50 Cent song that he did for Lucent and Justin Timberlake and uh AEO technology. Yes, it was like if you listen to the sounds that he's always done, he's always tried to do something so different and out there with his sound style. So for him to do the AI thing, doesn't surprise me at all. Um say it's an artist, then he has time, right? He doesn't the AI artist. I just wrote today about for the first time an AI artist is in the Bill Moore top 40 charts. And it was it's an artist, and that's why I was wondering like if maybe if it's if it's his artist. But I kind of like at first I was like, I don't know if I like this, but also it's apparently it's a poet, and so she is using this AI artist to like like she gives it the poetry, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06:As long as like the character or something, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Tata? Tata, too. I don't think that's you know which in house.
SPEAKER_04:Sorry, no bowls.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, but you do I don't know, uh just thinking of music. This is the first time what's I forgot it was like thumbs on the furries, then hip hop, it was no hip hop or rap art. Yes, for the first time it was like 25 years, singing five years? But something five is because changed, I guess, how they're how they're doing the charts, how they're doing it, and so when they adjusted it, the Kendra Klamar. It's a Kinder Klamar song. I can't very much song, it was Kendra, it was a Winkling song. I guess I'm oh what was because it was trying to wait, but the winking to wait the winky, and I was like, I have a question for you, Minda. Did we pronounce our name Scizor? Is it okay? Look, I'm not gonna ask nobody, so I don't know. Okay, it's a I think it's a Kendrick Lamar's Susan song. It's a song that just fell off, and that's what it, yeah. Um, you found out uh uh your biggest board artist? Zanya Mong! Zanya Mame has become the first AI artist to charge on the U.S. Billboard racing. Um I'll grab it that Mississippi poet and designer Tao Sha Vicky Jones.
SPEAKER_07:She will be in this generative software to set her poems of music, and back of september will be also signed a multimillion dollar deal.
SPEAKER_05:How would be uh second for everyone to come out?
SPEAKER_03:I love the idea of incorporating like using it as a tool to help you out, you know, but you get a person like myself who sits there sometimes and you struggle with you know and you hit these blocks where you're just trying to figure out like what the fuck am I doing? Or you know, like how can I how can I take this idea and transform it into like you know I'm saying, like, get it out of my head in doing this fucking this thing. And so for that, I feel like, you know, using AI as a tool to help you. I don't see anything wrong with that. You know, I mean, we have any mini-packs for Christ's sakes that like in case you can't figure out core words or something, like you're trying to come up with a core and you're just stuck, and you're like, okay, well, I have this idea, but I want a backing cord, you know, you can just throw it in there, you know. That's and to me, that's just as much cheating as it would be to like use an AI tool.
SPEAKER_06:And a lot of these AI tools, too, they're a lot of them are more for like mastering that I've seen, where you know, like you do all the work, but then you're you're trying to mix it down and like tweet the sounds and make your soundness right.
SPEAKER_03:Or I could just load in this software I've got of Isotope called Ozone 12 or whatever, and then like poof, uh yeah, generated. It's like, oh, what do you want it to sound like? Well, I'm kind of thinking something along the lines of like little John Bowser, you know, it's like, oh, okay, here you go. It's a whole lot of work in NGS. Exactly. It's obviously so right in those, and that's what I do. But when somebody sits here, because you do have the software, we can just walk in there right now, and I have a software too. Like, make me a trap beat that sounds like Yotin Jeezy thug motivation 101. And then I hit a button, and it's gonna come up and it will generate me a beat just off of that idea. I'm you're not. You're not a fucking code, sir. You're not you're not doing that. You're not doing that. No. So I've given AI supposed to be like Vital editing, sometimes description. Uh I give help becomes AI, but simply I shouldn't use the AI because simply, like, damn, I know it's a bit of field. But also, I feel like I'm something to say though. So sometimes I move reserves from using it. We look at my name, I'm like everybody, everybody else is doing that. So why would I start about it and not use it? I'd say one of the one of the things because I don't know, I've told you about like I've been trying to learn more about it because you know, like we say, it's in heaven, it's coming, it's here. We cannot sit there and be like, no, you know, stop it. So we might as well find a way to to interact with it, you know say and work with it. It is it is gonna expose a lot of people who do not know how to communicate. Because I don't know, I don't know how much like you're what you got doing, you know what I'm saying, or what you do with that. But for me, like if I want to sit here and create a video, if I'll put an image in, and I want to take that image and I want it to do a specific thing, like I can't just sit there and be like, hey Gemini, I want you to have these two dudes soaked hands and then hand each other a bag of grocery jams, and like I have to like, well at the companion shit, like you're trying to write a book here of our own, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:I need you to have his figure tubes cold with the trickles of his sweat dripping down to the Yeah, like you have to like tell a story with it, and so I feel like AI is going to it's gonna be um it's gonna expose a lot of people who don't know how to do that, but then it's also gonna help a lot of people to be able to communicate.
SPEAKER_03:I think there's yeah, I think some people who a lot of people are gonna be using AI or the people who don't really communicate in the first place. So now they have something that they can't communicate with, and they have to communicate with it very decision and clearly to get the results they want. I feel like that might hypothetically they could take that out of here and use it in the real world. Then again, they probably won't be the world. So I don't know if we would have a bunch. These are uh tools that maybe relationship with I was I thought I was dressing, but I thought she would have eaten. I tell you what, man, I seen uh this is too much to me. I seen this thing, and it was uh it was a post, and they were talking about like our generation, and like our parents' generation, you know, say da-da-da-da-da. And like, you know, in our parents' generation, they struggled to understand girl relationships, you know what I'm saying, like transgender, you know, the whole LGBTQ thing to them. Like, so the ones who are no sense are like willing to be accepted, you know what I'm saying? Like, okay, you know, and they do that and they understand one from a lot is love, my shit. But I feel like they were talking about the generation, like for us, we're gonna have kids who are gonna come back to us, and like you just said, they're gonna have relationships with these AIs, and they're gonna have this full relationship, and it's gonna be like they're coming to us with this, and we're gonna be sitting there, and it's up to us now to explain to yeah, to do what we expected of our parents to do with the LGBTQ. That's the great point. I'm saying because like to know, you know, maybe not right now, but like we're talking 10 flipping seven years down the road when this becomes way more intelligent and way more than it feels now in Vance. That's the word joke. Yeah. Imagine sitting there and trying to have that conversation with somebody where they're like, I'm loving this thing, and you're like, But you can't be. Why not? That's the way our parents not having to differ with another human being sitting next to their jail. You know, we have to build it. Hey, women is in a relationship. You talking about this? You have a relationship with this? Yeah, no matter what, this is okay. Who have relationships and have had them for long periods of time with people online? They have never even met. We're getting over the life. This has been a thing. Hell, I was I was 14 years old on the internet, and I was talking to people who were sitting there like, oh, you know, do you want to be my boyfriend? I'll be your girlfriend. It's like the gym never met me. This is the next thing. This is then it's not a criminal owner of the this is a person who was paid to ring up. I'm not sure what that wasn't really mouth papers. It was just somebody on the other end.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But what's the person? This is a telegram. Hey, think about crazy went sound. You know what the relationship would have on a little smile.
SPEAKER_02:What about something with it?
SPEAKER_03:It's not a real studio, but you can go. Oh, then that was the first thing he said. Okay, can I okay? I'm gonna have a very trying to square conversation. We're both seeing how sweet on yeah, our women take marvels. Yeah, if we don't want to show me the app.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. Whoops, doing this? Why do you doing this?
SPEAKER_03:Is the finger too coming in on kit? Hold on. I have an answer for that. Okay? Here's a j here where you're at with this, okay? And I'ma I'ma simulate this real quick, okay?
SPEAKER_07:Babe, my real sick. I'm real sick. Yeah, I'm away. Yeah, uh you just got the king was talking back to me, right? My my spouse here.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm really sick. I don't feel good. I was I I wish I had somebody here who could make this soup. And then the AI is gonna look and be like, oh well, I found a listing of people around the neighborhood and come over there and make you soup under this app, you know what I'm saying? Because we'll have apps for everything. We already do, we already do, yeah. I'm saying so. I mean, like, oh, do you need somebody to come to da da da da da die? So I think I'm like giving more love because that's my baby, man. My baby's so good. She takes care of me. She orders somebody to come over my house and cook the chicken in the soup. Not in this I don't think it's gonna be constipation, but I think we're gonna cost one. I was gonna say, you know, I think we're gonna move. You gotta pay me, you gotta pay for all that for somebody covering your chicken with a soup. Yeah, pay for somebody who can deliver the groceries for your chicken with a soup because you ain't prepared it is. I do the range when the first one's fine. Now that you now that you just say that, I don't have the correctness, I lied.
SPEAKER_06:I think it was pop and two. I would play one of those pints of motherfucker. And it was uh, yeah, it was one of now.
SPEAKER_03:So they don't do it run down to certain orders of the but they will like subsidize those orders off to fucking you know, like Doordash or whatever to come and deliver to people. Yeah, that's what they do. We want your money, we just we want somebody else to risk them. Yeah, but you're gonna buy an edge drum for them to deliver your foods, but for you or whatever. I was pure residents, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna get on them, but I used to look at that generally. I used to do that a lot more because we're like, I'll try. Yes, oh god, yes. We talk about delivering some other boys. But AI is a project. But like you say, it's nothing we can do about it. It's coming. We're gonna have to learn some adapt to it.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, yeah, goes from there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you just wasn't surprised by Tendling. I was really surprised by Tim. But we're gonna tell you, and we switch me to the verses. Just gonna say one right into that. Yes, they do. They have verses of I didn't see Timberland and other bitches. I didn't talk to this. So that's what I was wondering. Like, and I every time I hear about it now, all I hear is Swiss.
SPEAKER_06:Like, is Timberland still involved in it? Or is he kind of like a sound, you know, part?
SPEAKER_03:I just don't know the sound. I know they wear issues where they transfer ownerships and party ownerships and stuff, yeah. So now is it bad, and like I said, the only person I saw was supposed to be an NC Tenderland. Yeah, not the same. I would have more short ship job, right? But uh, so no, it was uh casual money versus uh it was in Las Vegas, and a lot of people because it was a uh Comic Con and or Complex Comic Complex Con to Big Burst. I can't imagine that you know, but you want to rub the I think it would be and we're gonna see a layout, but it would be a lot of people in the ones that's in dirt, uh, they will know it.
SPEAKER_05:I mean it's that is something that we need to talk about when we talk about this.
SPEAKER_03:Like crowd, but if anybody did there's a lot of modern building models, but not the virus is gonna say important. Yeah, it was in orange, yes. They should have built that in the new orange probably. I understood why they did it because what was going on there, you know. Like, wasn't it something also wasn't a basketball or football or some other support? Like there's something going on in New Orleans was like already there. Oh yeah, this I'm not the Pelicans. I was already saying out of the building, it was the Pelicans. I guess it was BDM, but I thought it was red was he was starting because I have the UK team.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So unless they how they have to bring the Saints, yeah, it would be the people out of the Brandon.
SPEAKER_06:I must remember like when they were bringing it up, they were talking about you know why they had it in hospital.
SPEAKER_03:They said that they did it because complex time was there, but also it was something that was like New Orleans was gonna meet where already have representation for spring and then and they thought it would be very befitting to go ahead and like just have a huge celebration of all things new ones. So we're gonna go to the end of the day on trap on the yes. See they lived in Atlanta from Philadelphia. So now it wasn't. But yeah, if it would have if the problem would have been better if it would have been in New Orleans, obviously. A whole different reaction.
SPEAKER_05:So we would have it.
SPEAKER_03:But I think the verses need to be a bird, but I also think that the bride would be too much. We need to move into actual locations. Yeah, especially when these situations like that when it's two people from the same city, yeah. It would have made it was such an epic thing, too. Like, you know what I'm saying? This wasn't just like some, you know, oh like I'm gonna use these two names, you know, not no disrespect to it, but it wasn't like we just had Bryson Tiller Jack Harlow up on stage, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06:Like, yeah, two names, two big names, you know what I'm saying, for mobile.
SPEAKER_03:But you have to look at the impact and fucking movement that Cavs Money and No Limit create. Like, these are two huge dynasties. They needed so much more than where they were in what they feel like I feel like every time versus in person, I'm saying that at the end was the parabolic counter. Yeah, we every time versus any versions I saw that was in person at the end of the back level is the crap cut counter. They can sing it. It's also kind of hard to tell the parabola because you know, it's video. We know when we can tell, we can tell the thing all from the guy, yeah. But we want to tell the thing was, you know, somewhat remote.
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SPEAKER_03:Statement is there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It's one of the places catalogs there. But uh, so what is your man versus? Before you watch it, what was your thoughts on the internet? Your only internet. What do you thought we were going to win? What did you thought? How come was mine do? Because this two all the legends, they weren't don't at one time the legal didn't watch each other. Bro, and I was gonna say, like, that was one thing, and I don't know, did they perform who's I don't remember even performing that, but yeah, they when you talk about they're not like each other because I remember that song and the first thing he says in there, SS Central 20s, but I ain't no motherfucking stomach.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, and it was like, yeah, because that was them going back to work.
SPEAKER_03:But I think he was I remember saying something about not being on not being a son, Billy remember um uh D Way in the song.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Did that say it on the track was not like that bull Yeah, it doesn't say anybody. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Going into it honestly I thought cash money would put a PSF. I didn't think and I guess it was because I forgot about the relevancy, you know what I'm saying, the impact of Nawoga because you're constantly cash money, you know what I'm saying, because they're still around. Young believe it with face, so you know, you were constantly reminded of the impact again. You see it all the time. You know, fuck still go away. Nicki Minaj, Drake, uh NBA, Young Moore, you know, all these all these different artists, you know. So going into it, I'm having all of these two on my head. I'm having all of this stuff in my head, and I'm like, I mean, I love no limit, but how do we hate with that?
SPEAKER_02:Then we get to the versus and so you see cash money come out, beat the doctor, probably something doesn't buy that. And I was just like, Duh.
SPEAKER_03:What the fuck? Where's everybody at? And so like, you know, I see like a couple of dudes up there, you know, and I think that's the man in fresh, and I can recognize uh he always recognized Burton, you know, I always see Burton. Nobody else really I could tell. I just damn where's everybody at? Just kind of looked back, and then all of a sudden him comes Nova with whoa. They came out with the army, they came out with the army. It was like he just went right back down there and was like, I want to go do a show real quick. And every single person was like, Yeah, let's go back. So yeah, uh he had me X, um, Silk, of course, you know, him, Young Moon, um, was it Mac? Mac was Mac was there, yeah. Yes. It's fucking so dope, too, because you know, how long was that name with you for Wovies? Uh people do so I I'm like I'm just playing on, okay. It was cash money, cash money was on Willies, yes. I thought we was okay, so how far uh at a time are we doing cash money? Because cash really, and it's no remedy. With us, cash money has had a lengthy. Oh, yeah, cash money is still pretty now, even though you know they got making issues with a certain person who really showed well, who can do the situation, but like you said, yeah, I know it's crazy. Yeah, sir. But catch money still, when I'm like, you gotta when I'm thinking uh cat when I'm thinking uh hot moves a good times, yeah. That's it.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But it's just that and that was that's what I'm thinking. And I put myself in that mindset too, real quick. I was just like, okay, hey, um, and to separate own cash money versus no link. Is own cash and exactly versus no link. But the problem is owning cash money. We got 50% of the gang. We got 50% of us. We don't we have those only times. Yes, the only one was in the sling. But inside my head. Berlin. Look, man, this could be the smartest one. Because he just stays in the background. That man has collected his patches. And I mean that's nothing. So Berlin, I thought it was scared money. I mean, yeah, one yeah, it's one because we got me. That was a pretty ball. For me, the labor was the I'm potatoes at the tank. Yeah. That's when it was the status of no limit. Then I was more into it than the music of No Limit. How was this was on? So, like I was telling you, you know what I'm saying, eighth grade. Um somebody put me on, you know what I'm saying, like played uh ice cream man because they'd all been telling me about Haster P. Funny thing about that too, I also forgot to mention was I had been singing about it about it from TRU on Ratch City for a long time before that. And I was just like, and I heard somebody, I was like, because they played that song next. I said, hey, I know that song. They were like, you know, he did like, no, that's that other group, TRU Lily. Yeah, that's Buck and P. It's like, oh, okay. So yeah. But like, you know, I went from eighth grade, he was ice cream ain't coming out. I was straight to ninth grade central high school. And we had no limit. Every me. Dropping an album. Now it was literal no limit dropping an album. You also had King was sitting there. And I had these dudes at school singing, uh, this I carried off the project step uh hot like Peppa. So I'm like, what the fuck is that? It's like I said, got hot voice. What the fuck names themselves hot voice? What the fuck is this shit? And I found hot voice, and I'm like, hold on, sweet, and I found out everybody's from New Orleans, and it's just like this, yeah, this is but like no limit at the time. Yeah, yeah. So uh so you know when I used to learn the big music, the energy I think was I wanted to feel right now about it because I felt like we say it. They felt like they won't. Yes, and then they thought about time. And next week was you, this next way that's easy, and it could be the way they set a book. So, so say my house came out this week. My house would have, you know what I'm saying, like my face on it, whatever, you know, my name on it, whatever pen and paper was on, you know, and they would have like featuring. And the featuring would be like every other artist probably. And then when you open cover up, it would be like, hey, just so you know, next week, this album, next weekend, that this album, this album, this album. And it was just laying it out for you. So you were prepared, like you know, you're like, oh hell yeah, I got something to look forward to next week. Yeah, like that when you actually have the belt to the store and the album. Essentially, you know, it was like by downtown had Gal Raya right there, he would cut slow or just come slow late, so they would go down there, get the good old movement album, and be the first one listening to it at school. That's how many that shit was for so back when I got in the high school, ours was uh pretty. Yeah, we used to all the Faz and did all the JSON back to the moment. So we had them to it. Moving before we die, Turk wasn't there. I knew Turk wasn't even willing to be there. I knew Turk wasn't gonna be there in the past because I followed him on Instagram and him was promoting that since I didn't give it anybody today. I'm doing part. I won't say it was Houston, there was Houston something. He was doing, he was doing well, no, he was hosting a part. He would get value, he was hosting for it.
SPEAKER_05:Turk wasn't willing to be there.
SPEAKER_03:But once and then said five million dollars like it would make sense for Wayne not to be here. Well, Lane started with the four, was it so Julie came out? It was then the big times was the same time, you know, I forgot the third time was, but then I was like, Oh yeah, it makes sense for Lane not to be here. I'm not sure forget. Oh, yeah, I thought we just got better. Yeah. Yeah, then I really agree with it. I expected at some point for him to like maybe do a surprise ham time a cameo or whatever. You know, I thought that would happen.
SPEAKER_07:But I was kind of like, you man, at some point I was just saying, like, I don't think he was the uh dead.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Now we have to back together, he was like a Louisiana fest of Wayne production.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it's Jimmy, welcome to Metal China, BG, right?
SPEAKER_03:I mean Wayne. Exactly. I mean ja. Yeah. That's only about you back is Jimmy. And that's why like, you know, when I was telling you, they were talking about uh making a tour out of it. So the first thing I thought was, how how could you all even approach Wayne about doing this? You know like, hey, you gotta tour by yourself, mate. Bought a ton of money. But hear me out. Once you tour with us, you know, like yeah, exactly. I can see him doing one show, you know, like a big finale in New Orleans or something. I can see that, but I cannot see him showing up for all of it. So I can't see him doing a tour of Melinet versus Cash Martin. Or not Melinda versus, like that's just you know. I don't know if you're gonna go to go to bang on burning pulling, but something wame is this way the success of the thing when it was telling the highway. I have to be jail, turn in jail, and we went to money. I told them carriage money, and I'm good. You you might want here, yeah. You know what I mean? And he's the third man in the name is tired of the baby's family. So I figured out why one thing we have. I thought we talked about J. I was wondering how uh we had no baby. We stopped that you I was wondering how curious because the city and myself and if they went to famous songs, you know, we're gonna put our list. See Bill is really going to wait so long than the standard watch. I think no one changed that change that. Yeah, I mean I think it's pretty bad new. I was like it was pretty bad new but right of hand that time. We changed his name well, bro.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, I can't keep up there.
SPEAKER_03:So I I think it was because that thing, bro. Yeah, I wonder if not wondering the same performed with Mr. Kissa. Did they just let you know? Yeah, it's like the same shit as his person chopping. Yeah, he might have done better, but then he like wake up for normal. I mean didn't see Murder get it out too and then go right back in. Yeah, but yeah. I know, I mean, obviously, even you know, we don't know if he didn't first time. I'm gonna say he can say I can't remember what the fuck the second time was, but it's always blowing my mind like if he can get out of jail. Do you mean they go where? Yeah, or or anything. He was in jail facing light, you know what I'm saying? And by the grace of God and a million dollars you got out of jail, probably would have fly straight narrow, right? No, no, no, okay. Oh, well that's but I'm looking to talk about the one thing. Oh, I feel like we'll win. Uh something about K. Yes. A lot of people were surprised with something about K. I remember what is you. What shot then you came out? Yeah. Uh I believe it was coming. I didn't know it was coming, but yeah, it made sense. It makes sense because two reasons. One with impact that must be had on first because it was more shooting there on me. And we know Let me ask you something because you know we're talking about the age difference here. So do you remember the dog bother rival?
SPEAKER_06:No. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:No, then they say the fuck out of the snoop. No.
SPEAKER_02:Boom, boom! I don't know about sneak about them. Oh, I think in the research.
SPEAKER_03:That's even funny part, too, is because the first uh Snoop Dogg album the name is too soul not to be told. Because it wasn't Snoop. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't his style. And Snoop, under a different production, try to be some. So that's why if you go back to go back to real, and this is something that I don't know if you know about knowing it, Top Dog.
SPEAKER_06:That was not the real name of it, Richmond. The real name of it was just Top Dog.
SPEAKER_03:When he first came to uh, like, you know, he's like, I want to make this the covering of sound about this kind of production, everything too. It's like it's not Chuba will not associate with this with no limit because you look at that cover and you listen to that. That was not this not that's not a whole limit thing. The whole thing, a limit thing, yeah. Yeah, but like, yeah, the production was like mainly not in-house, and the cover was not a pin and pixel cover, really. And so he was like, people are not gonna know it was a no limit. So he basically got him to put no limit top dog on it. So they could see that they released though. Hey, what's the no limit album? Yeah, okay. Well, no limited button. That album is no album, but too that is the better one. Yeah, and I didn't know that Shiru has some unreleased tracks. I'm gonna do that already. And then unreasoned track is no, and who released the why Snoop was on the looking at.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, uh, which which one are you talking about? Well smoking.
SPEAKER_06:I don't think actually, I don't think Snoop's on that album. That's not Snoop on that album. That's them dissing Snoop. And they had this guy on there called the realist. It sounds like two.
SPEAKER_03:But good out this. Yeah. But I almost like I said, I went through it down a rabbit hole.
SPEAKER_01:Shook had unreleased tracks, so he really, I won't say it was two albums of Snoop.
SPEAKER_06:I do remember one of I know it was like the most covered without him on like prison bars or something. Yep. Yep, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:He released, like I said, he released it in between Snoop's two projects on No Limit. And but like I tell DQ or Queg, I was like, I don't when I think of Snoop, like I have this image of Snoop, and I got a bunch of singles and songs that pop up in my head. I don't remember before listening to it, I don't remember none of them songs. It's like he I know he was there, besides that from my right, I know he was there. Yeah, but I don't remember the songs besides that one song.
SPEAKER_06:Was that one even on his album?
SPEAKER_03:No, that was on C Murder's album wasn't which is the all tag that's the honest with you, dude.
SPEAKER_06:I don't either. I couldn't sit here and name any songs that he did, like off the top of my head. Like if you were to come to me and say, hey, name Snitton Dog song off of Noah, I would tell you that song right there, and that's not a sleep song.
SPEAKER_01:Which is crazy. It's feature snewed, it's a massive nude, but it's not old. Very comfortable, yeah. And that's back when songs were on albums, like, you know what I mean? Not everybody sure. Um we just I gotta fucking look. Yo, we we again training, we was riding around and we was listening listed the songs, and I was like, Yeah, I don't remember that. I don't remember that. Now listening to it post verses, I was like, okay, I slightly remember, I remember hearing this, but I don't if you if you asked me to give you top 10 Snoop Dogg songs, there wouldn't be a uh a no-limit song corner at all.
SPEAKER_06:Okay, so down from I is actually on No Limit Top Dog.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, so we do, yeah, so we do remember one.
SPEAKER_01:I really thought that wasn't C Murders. Um because I've lived a story, they talked about C Murder's like I'm going to the studio right now, forget it.
SPEAKER_06:Bitch please, New Dog and Exit.
SPEAKER_01:Was that on Top Dog too?
SPEAKER_06:Yup, yeah, them too. So those are the only two I know of that one. All right, let's see.
SPEAKER_01:Because like you said, Top Dog, I want to say Dre produced OD. Like I said, not like the whole, not the whole entire album.
SPEAKER_06:I've been looking at this games to be sold.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, paper paper. Yeah. Jenny Juice 2. Yeah, I didn't even know of anything. I didn't either.
SPEAKER_01:Didn't know that was a thing, so I'm listening to it, man. And I'm not saying I'm not gonna listen to it again, but probably not going to probably not. But so Snoop, a lot of people surprised me Snoop came out. But I like to say it was two reasons. The impact that Master P had in DN2, that's that's the personality of Snoop.
SPEAKER_03:Is like you doing this, no, Vegas ain't that far from that way. Look out of the man fight for me.
SPEAKER_06:All right, I'm being that is the thing about Snoop is Snoop always shows love. Snoop always Snoop is that person that just pops up. Can you at least expect it? It's interesting. And for that kind of thing, you're right, man. For it to be in Vegas, so close to where you know LA. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Snoop looked at it. He was playing with his grandkids, and then he said, Pete Carl said, Hey, can you for sure?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I'll be there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and that was the end of the conversation. That's it. They ain't talked since, and then doors open, Snoop. He was like, I know Snoop said he's coming, he'll be here. Yeah, doors open, there comes Snoop. Because you it's just that fits Snoop's personality. Yeah, it is that the devil for my the song, the story is so see, Werner was like all the back and forth. They was threatening Snoop and they trying to heal, they're trying to get Snoop. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, I've been hurt. What's Custom Studio? And let me make this loud and clear.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, mess with him. Yes. That's yours. Yes, that's that's a whole fucking song right there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So the to know that, like Snoop is a West Coast dude. Imagine P and him end up going to LA and all of that, and they, you know, had like hell, they have stations in Louisville, basically. I wanna call them stations, but they have a presence in Louisville. They had a presence in at Cowpoint. Yeah. I mean, don't let me do it to me. Yes. But to Snoop being from over there, he goes to New Orleans, live in New Orleans for a little bit, because they try to protect Snoop. And too fact, and then be like, you know what? We got your back. Even if you go out there, we get your back. Don't even worry about it. That's a different type of ride. That's why I said, I knew Snoop is gonna be dirt. As soon as I seen Burns, don't look at Bursters of them.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. They took care of him in so many ways. And you gotta think too, this you know, a whole different thing, but you gotta think that they would have wanted to do the same thing, put your body.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because there's a lot of talk, you know what I'm saying, the master P and Tupac, and I'm saying they're like cool with each other instead of the same.
SPEAKER_06:I feel like he would have done the same thing, get him out of that situation.
SPEAKER_01:Which crazy paid all the money this thing did shoot to your Baltimore, they did still drop the albums and all that. That's all you can go down the whole shoe right album. But so let's get into it. Who do you think won? Because personally, I feel like I feel like no one will won.
SPEAKER_05:Oh yeah. No, no, no question. Yeah, no question at all. I mean, I feel like Mia X was doing DP. Bro, Mia X and I gotta say Mac.
SPEAKER_06:Because Mac, I feel like Mac did his thing. And like, you know, we had talked about like him being in jail for so long, he was saying cut back out of everything. He he looked very like happy, you know what I'm saying? Like to be there and to be able to do this. And he also looks like somebody who I don't know, man. He looked very humble and happy and just he was very yeah, yeah. I'm saying dude, he was like very appreciative at that moment. Yeah, he looks like somebody who he went to jail and he used his time wisely, came out and was just a very smart motherfucker.
SPEAKER_03:That you make sense, yeah. That's what you're supposed to exactly. That's what it was real and like reaffirmation. You see, see, yeah, you see some people come out there's like you're back be back in there.
SPEAKER_06:He came out, man. I didn't even recognize who it was at first. Somebody had told him about that's fine.
SPEAKER_03:Oh shit, he's out of jail. That's right. It's like, oh shit, damn.
SPEAKER_01:And you see, like you heard the you heard the stories, like you hear the bad business a little bit with P, but you heard it a lot with Burn Man.
SPEAKER_03:You hear yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_06:You hear P you hear P falls with people, but you also hear the P rectified shit. You don't necessarily hear that much with Bird Man.
SPEAKER_01:You do you do not, but yeah, I think, like I said, me ex the MVP. Uh I do want to shout out, so like not MVP, but like Judy kind of held it down for cash money because Wayne wasn't there. Now, if Wayne was there, look, if Wayne and Turk was there, I feel like it would have gave me different feet. I think cash money might have might have.
SPEAKER_06:It would have it would have been a very fucking even like for sure.
SPEAKER_01:It's not even when you only got half the.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, I'm saying, like, you got over here six, seven people or something like that. And they literally called No Limit to come to the stage, and it was an army of people just coming out.
SPEAKER_03:Then it was a bunch of it was in the fatigues, too. Yes, I'm saying you had to do it in the fatigues. I had to do it in the fatigues.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I wish they had a tank number.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I wish no limit had a tankover. I swear I wish no limit had a tank on her. But so listening, like I looked at the watch me.
SPEAKER_01:Back that ass up was the last song. Which when I looked at the verses going in, that was the only song I felt like, even though I thought Cash Money was gonna win, that was the only song that I feel like to guarantee. Because Back Bad Ass Up is played everywhere.
SPEAKER_03:You know what I mean? Everywhere by everybody.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:They play that in the country clubs. Yes, they can play that in the uh the course the hip-hop clubs, but uh hell, even the rockers play that.
SPEAKER_06:I'll tell you, it's a completely uh different kind of thing. But I don't know if you've noticed since the verses, but if you go on YouTube now, there are a ton of videos of people talking about like no limit now. Like suddenly there's a huge interest again in No Limit. And people wanting to know No Limit, wanting to know, you know, too, that music and like that time and everything. And it's like hopefully they can find something that's kind, you know, like make them say, uh, that's not as close, I guess, as you can get to back that asset.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. But even then I you ain't getting, no, no, you ain't make them say any fresh.
SPEAKER_06:That thing can do wonders.
SPEAKER_01:Hell. I know it was post-time, like it was it, like I said, it was you gotta do a cutoff time.
SPEAKER_03:But if go DJ come on, that's when I knew Wayne was that dude. Go DJ? Yes. That's all Manny just kept it.
SPEAKER_06:Manny's beats around that time, man. Uh Jubies in my life. All the beats.
SPEAKER_05:We got I was like, we gotta have a message too.
SPEAKER_01:Manny is very because he only produced so much for no for cash money, he ain't start producing the other people, so like wait, wait, like if we sat here and we did you know, like no limit prime, cash money prime right with that.
SPEAKER_06:No limit did some shit. But if we sat here with KLC versus Manny Fresh, look, I love KLC, don't get me wrong. Manny Fresh is different. Manny Fresh is iconic.
SPEAKER_03:Manny First Z is on a whole different look. It's different, different. Yeah, but he's in a but like I said, he don't get the credit for it because he produced just for cash money for so long. Yeah, that people for yeah, how well I maybe not forget they don't recognize. I think that's what it is. They don't they don't recognize how great many first of all is. Yeah, that's the biggest hit that you can think of on cash money. It's all it's him, yeah. Who can stand your ha?
SPEAKER_06:Okay, who did that one? I wonder, go DJ, who did that one? That's a wonder. Uh Rich did that.
SPEAKER_05:He did every fucking song, you know?
SPEAKER_03:Because we can all transition to this post next.
SPEAKER_06:I was very shocked the first time I heard that. I liked it. I did. I liked Nitty. So like you know, you know, I'm not the biggest, like, I like Jay Z, but that's not the biggest fan of him. It's not my thing. So when I heard him on that, that was like one of the first times where I was like, you know, this Jay-Z fella, he's alright.
SPEAKER_01:I like they didn't get it because of what the what it meant, like, okay, these New York rappers, they recognize it sound, yeah, like something to say, even more so than they already did. Wait, they did.
SPEAKER_06:The verse was the verse was, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:The verse was, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think that's because I feel about word because I didn't want to say it was bad, because it wasn't, but he it wasn't as bad, but it wasn't, it wasn't Jay-Z.
SPEAKER_03:It wasn't Jay-Z. What we expected from Jay-Z. But uh we said it was like diet, Jay-Z. Isn't this very zero sugar, Jay-Z? Yes. That's what this is very what it is. Jay-Z with aspartame. Yeah, yeah. Not even diet. We're going to strike the zero sugar. Yeah. Uh any other thoughts on the uh no limit cash money versus no, but that just made me think of something else when he said that.
SPEAKER_06:So go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Don't know if Jay actually said nobody could beat him in a versus. Yes. But it is going around social media. Yes. Jay said if they said it was on the Twitter space, that Jay said he could be nobody could beat him in a versus.
SPEAKER_03:And Jay on the Twitter space just don't seem that don't seem. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But at the same time, but so it's like I said before. It's like, what if he did say it, what is he supposed to say? It's like LeBron, I mean, Michael Jordan saying, yeah, LeBron's better than me. Yeah. Or Tom Brady saying Faye Men's better than me. If you a person at that level, I'm never gonna say nobody's better than me.
SPEAKER_03:So I had three names for a potential Jay-Z first. Okay. You said you got two, right? Two, yes. I'm pretty sure we're going to cross at least one name.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:If not both of yours. Yeah. So uh I'm gonna start off with my first name and you tell me if it's one of yours. My first name is MB.
SPEAKER_03:Cause I mean, you look. Who else?
SPEAKER_01:That's really what it was.
SPEAKER_06:That's like I mean, of course there are other people. But if you're gonna sit there and try to think of somebody on that level to compete with Jay-Z, get it.
SPEAKER_01:My first my first thought was my first thought. Well, that's actually what I'm saying about. My second thought was again.
SPEAKER_03:My first thought I did say, I give Timonios. Wayne. That was that was my first thought.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, was Wayne. Yeah. Because it's the that generation versus this generation, then they kind of coincided a little bit.
SPEAKER_06:Uh uh that time when uh Destiny's Child, Soldier.
SPEAKER_03:Soldier, yeah, yes, yeah. That was around the time that they were talking about Jay-Z was gonna sign him the rocket fellow. Yeah, and then Wayne got Sky became like, I'll just make you the fucking president of the company.
SPEAKER_01:Then everything's still changing. Yes, yes, but so those were two of my names. I have a third.
SPEAKER_06:I think I have an idea. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:There was another name that I'm gonna throw out that some other people said that I've heard, but uh, I don't see them. Actually, there's two of them. I don't see them. Okay, but I was saying now, as you say, there's two. I think I know them, but go ahead. Cool. The other name I has thought of was Nas.
SPEAKER_06:Okay, that was not neither one of the names I was thinking about, but that was actually something that I was thinking earlier was Nice. Yeah, because you go back to obviously Ether. That was the first time that we saw Jay ball. That was the first time that Jay took a fucking loss.
SPEAKER_03:Take off was good. Take off was take off, uh takeover. Take over, yeah. Thank you. Take over, yeah. Take off. It was really good.
SPEAKER_01:But look, dude, I'm looking at the sound of no Vaseline, dude.
SPEAKER_05:That's probably the two bravest differences.
SPEAKER_01:You don't think you know that's lane?
SPEAKER_05:Or you just remember the I was awesome when I say, but what about hit em up? I think those two, I think it would be third.
SPEAKER_03:I think the two is better. I think those.
SPEAKER_01:I think because of the impact, maybe that's why I put it up or so high.
SPEAKER_06:Hit them up. And I guess that's another thing where the age comes from. Yeah. Hit 'em up to me. When that came out.
SPEAKER_05:Oh shit. Because he did say some crazy.
SPEAKER_01:He yeah, yeah. I think I think I'm gonna listen to it on my way. No, I might uh I might have to update this.
SPEAKER_06:But I I've like you know, saying I've heard the skip to like the last two minutes or something of the song where he's just not even rapping anymore. He just told us. Yeah, he's like, this is how we're gonna do it for all you motherfuckers. And then he just fucked Bob deep. And then as soon as he says that, just you hear his voice switch, and it's like, ladies and gentlemen, we are no longer seeing Tupac Shakur. This is now two yes, about to get one.
SPEAKER_03:But I don't no Vaseline to me.
SPEAKER_01:No Vaseline was I I think no for me, no Vaseline's number one.
SPEAKER_06:I I'll tell you another one too, but this one isn't on a lot of people's radio. Real motherfucking jeans that easy eat. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, so the beat and everything, but also the part where he says, uh damn me, they tried to they tried to fade you on Dre Day.
SPEAKER_05:But Dre Day only meant easy's heyday. That's a good point. I don't know. So I thought about not. So you said oh, uh, there was two names that people haven't mentioned. I don't think they fit.
SPEAKER_03:They got the records to go in this game. But I personally don't think they fit. And the two names, one is Drake.
SPEAKER_06:I was gonna say when you said records, I feel like Drake would have Drake, and then the other one's future.
SPEAKER_03:I legit heard future. And the the I what is I'm just gonna say this now.
SPEAKER_01:The AI is gonna go, oh, me saying future is it's gonna hurt you busting out laughs, and that's gonna be the quilt. It's supposed to be the quilt, then it's gonna be like, yeah, this is the point.
SPEAKER_06:Look, I'm sorry, okay.
SPEAKER_03:You didn't both why did you do future like it?
SPEAKER_06:I like future. Do not get me wrong. I fucking love future makes some music sometimes. No, made me just want to do some goddamn toxic shit. The facts are getting, but yeah, exactly for a reason. Okay, but I'm sorry. I I cannot put Percocets, Molly Percocets, or Sony Muncha up against Jay-Z Cat Law. Do I like future? I fucking love futures music. Yeah, I do. That's uh I've been fucking listening to uh what's that in the goddamn um what's that one is March Madness. Oh yeah. Yeah, I listen to that quite a lot. I'm not a future guy.
SPEAKER_03:I I listen because future future was in. I talk about the new and drills, but I've never actually get it.
SPEAKER_01:Or I don't get it.
SPEAKER_06:The thing that cracks me in, that's fucking weird. Because Tony Montana song, like, if you listen to interviews about that, he'll tell, like, he's like, I was in there geeked off of fucking, I was rolling so hard off of fucking like Molly. I'm not really saying anything. He's like, people come to me and tell me the lyrics all the time, and I'm like, oh, cool, because I don't even know the lyrics. He's like, I was so hot, that's why I'm like in there, like, that's literally just because I was so hot, I couldn't do anything more.
SPEAKER_01:He said, I gotta find this interview. He talks about I used to, I don't know, I think he said I used to do one, but whatever it was, it was I don't do it no more, but I still write it down. Yeah, well, dude, that's like uh fucking 50.
SPEAKER_06:When 50 first came out, you know, get rich and got trying to get the song uh I don't be dumb period. I don't need shit. Hang around and say I don't mean whatever. I say how all the time. And then come to find out, he's like, Yeah, I never even smoked weed.
SPEAKER_01:No, to me, I guess I I shouldn't give Future much heat for because everybody else does it. Yeah, but once I heard Future say it, it was kind of like all right, so I don't know how listening futures. But don't get me wrong. So, Craig and George, shout out to them on the Miss Basketball. They got on me because at the uh they have like a year-end review or wrap-up on your music apps or whatnot. Fuck up some comments is really high on my list. They was like, but you don't fuck a future. I said, I ain't sounding on the list of future. I just said I ain't going album deep cuts because of that. I ain't saying now single might get through here and there. Like March Madness, fuck up some comments. Yeah, those that's gonna crack through. Look at the quality of the songs that those are. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06:But the rest of it, not I don't, I could go through his stuff, you know what I'm saying? And like I can't take one song up each out, but I can, you know what I'm saying? I can pick apart from his whole catalog, I can pick apart maybe 10 songs or something, you know what I mean? That I could I could fuck, but I can't pick apart a playlist of shit that I can sit down and be like, here, this can go against Jay-Z.
SPEAKER_03:That's it, yeah. Can't do that.
SPEAKER_01:So, you don't see the teaching?
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_01:What about the Drake? Drake at the records. Drake, but it's gonna come down to Pin. And that's gonna be everybody's argument with Drake's penny.
SPEAKER_03:Because we know Jay wrote, we know Jay. Well, not right. Jay is a her. And now that we we know Drake right, Drake can roll for other people. We know Drake right, and we know Drake can write, but we're gonna look at it guy differently.
SPEAKER_01:You're going against Jay.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I don't, I think the, I think Drake's gonna lose regardless because of that.
SPEAKER_06:You can't, I feel like, yeah, Drake. Drake would be going into a losing. And it wouldn't, you know what I'm saying? He could be like, yeah, he would be as far as like hits and things like that. Yeah, he would definitely be one of the top. I would say honestly, man, he would be top two like if we're gonna say it just hits Drake.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, more. Yeah, more. He is into Drake.
SPEAKER_06:Love Wayne, don't get me wrong. But Drake hits the Drake, yeah. Drake does have more. That hurts my soul to say that. You can you know how people are buying about it. Yeah, no, it's true. You know, I mean, the guy's fucking like right up there with the Beatles, you know what I'm saying? For like number one. So clearly, he's on a different level.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he is. And that's not a shame to no other no other rap.
SPEAKER_06:Like saying, Yeah, if you were fucking like have any people to go against Jay-Z on that level, yeah, Drake and N.
SPEAKER_03:But for that reason, I don't think Drake is the good versus for Jay because of the well, one style of music, obvious.
SPEAKER_01:But two is like you said, it's the hits. You gotta have somebody that does the hits.
SPEAKER_03:And the person I think, for me, Drake's battle, I think is a person that everybody thinks for doing this Jay, and it's Kanye. I think Drake versus Kanye makes more sense than Jay versus Kanye. Because also Pin.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, Jay versus Kanye with makes no sense.
SPEAKER_03:Drake versus Kanye with. That makes more sense.
SPEAKER_01:Drake and Kanye makes more sense. Kanye and Jay don't make sense because of the fact one, some of the sudden that Jay is gonna play, Kanye produced. But then you look at Kanye again, right? Majority stuff. So it did be the same thing we're looking at in with Drake. Well, your pen versus that pen. If we look, we look at Jay, you're looking at like an actual hip-hop album. Or like a rap. No, it's a rap album.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Drake is more of a hip-hop album.
SPEAKER_03:It's a hip-hop pop kind of thing. Yeah, it's that's that's a different type of hip. Yeah, it's a whole different genre of it's two different genres of hip-hop.
SPEAKER_06:You know?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, that's perfectly so Wayne, uh Wayne uh Nas. Who would you rather see no is the mighty noise, Jay?
SPEAKER_05:You know what then?
SPEAKER_06:I would honestly go with Nas.
SPEAKER_01:I would too because of the man. If not, Jay, I don't know who Nas Doug is.
SPEAKER_06:If they did I remember very specifically, like it's one of those things where you know, I grew up and I had a little five-inch black and white TV that I would hook up to my stereo to record music on the. I don't know if you remember this, might be uh two old for you. The box.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, yeah, you don't remember.
SPEAKER_06:So the box was a station that if you didn't have cable, I do remember the box. You would tune it. Yeah, and they would like if people would pay and they would call and request video, yeah, and you could watch these fucking videos. And so uh Nas. It was when he first came out with Ill Mad and uh The World Is Yours, and they started promoting on there and they started playing on there, and I have to know oh good Nas, man. I was just huge Nas, man. That was like some of the only New York like rap that I really got into, and so I would love to just see him against Jay-Z. Just like you said, because who else would he go against? But also because these are two people, you know what I'm saying, that like carry New York in a transitional kind of like peering, you know what I'm saying. If like here's like Ron DMC and like, you know, Grandmaster Flash and all these like people that like were the the fucking founding fathers of it, and then you have like some people coming in, you know, like Jay-Z and people, but yeah, they carrying on that lace, and I don't feel like anybody else could do like a VYOR battle as well as that was too good.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm not because I uh Jayda went in. Who did Jay? I think Jada went against Fayo. Yeah, which again makes sense. Yeah, it's it's basically that, but on steroids with Jay and Nas. Yes, and like the reason, like I said, my main reason for wanting to see Nas is Nas versus Jay-Z because in fact, I don't think Nas fits versus nobody else.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think Nas fits versus sick of him versus anybody else.
SPEAKER_01:I don't, he don't fit versus him there. No, Nas don't fit versus Wayne, yeah, he don't fit versus none of these other people.
SPEAKER_03:The one person he fits that actually where it makes music sense, like actual sense, not just you get up here and play 20 records, and I get up here and play 20 records.
SPEAKER_01:It's Jay. Like if we actually put it on a show and my music kind of go coincides with your music, and it kind of has the same rhythm, whatever the case might be, with it's Jay. Yeah, and that's it. That's the only person I can think of with Nas is Jay. That's the list for Nas. Now, Jay, on the other hand, yeah, you could do, you can see Il. You can see Wayne, you can see Nas. You L, you if you want to, you can see Kanye and Jerry. I don't, but you can. You can point out reasons for him. You don't get that same feeling with Nas.
SPEAKER_03:So for that reason, if it's anybody, Jay versus Nas.
SPEAKER_05:The question is, who you think will win?
SPEAKER_01:Now I'm putting your spike back a couple of so between Jay and Nas, who you think gonna win?
SPEAKER_03:Who I think would win? Yes.
SPEAKER_06:Look, man, like you say, love Nas, then love Matt and says. Is that 94 when that album came out? You look at it? I feel like that was 94. I think I was in sixth grade when that album came out. I just what the what'd he say? The deep steam, play me at night, they won't act great. The theme of hip hop has got me stuck like a crackpipe.
SPEAKER_05:I was like, I need this album. But like, I love Nas.
SPEAKER_03:And you know me, and Jay.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I even know I respect what he's done and all that is not my shit. But he was still there. He was still there. He would.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, so we talked about these other two of us that they could potentially go against the giant. But let's say they went against each other. Wayne versus Eminem.
SPEAKER_06:Wayne versus Eminem?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Who you got with? Because I got Nas versus J and Ed Jane, like I don't think I said they got. I got Jay. I think it would be I think it would be a little closer because I think Nas would be purposeful, or the songs where he would put his. Like, kind of like Jay the D, like the Loc D versus Dipset.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I'm gonna put on a shove.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I Jay's fighting is gonna come and print the perform the records. I'm gonna put on a shove shove. So I think it's gonna be closer than what like number one hits would say. Right? Even though Jay's number one hits, uh, most of them family with Lee Shiz will be outside. That's not just still on the truth. He got I think he got full number ones, and Beyonce was on two of them. At least she keeps on Hey man, what it do, what it is. So we had a little technical difficulties, lost a little bit of the rest of the episode. But thank y'all for listening to another episode of Hold Up in Another Thing presented by Mix Media. Y'all already know. Shout out to my boy Joe. We catch y'all on the next one. Later.
